From the open frontier

Marin Blog

Research, experiments, and updates from the Marin community. Read original Marin posts alongside selected writing from Open Athena.

Expert parallelism at hero scale

Expert Parallelism made a 535B-A23B model practical to train. We compare FSDP, fixed-capacity EP, and results from a scaling ladder.

Rafal Wojdyla

Curating 25 Trillion Tokens for LLM Pretraining

How Marin deduplicates and decontaminates permissively licensed data, scores quality, tags topics, and learns how often to sample each data bucket.

Will Held

Marin 535B-A23B launch note

A look back at Marin's first year at Open Athena and forward at the 535B-A23B hero run, the largest model the team has ever trained.

David Hall

Open Development of Frontier AI

Open development is key to making frontier-level artificial intelligence legible, reusable, and public.

David Hall

Cluster Scheduling with Iris

Training a frontier-level LLM requires significant resources across a variety of providers and accelerator types. Our Iris scheduling system has allowed us to effectively make use of these precious resources using a custom global scheduler; in the months since rollout, our sustained concurrent TPU usage has roughly doubled.

Russell Power

Improving our LLM Pretraining Efficiency

How Marin pretraining became more efficient through Mixture of Experts, higher expert sparsity, MuonH, PKO, and routed expert normalization.

Larry Dial

Async RL from Scratch on TPUs

Ahmed Ahmed*, Kevin Li*, Christopher Chou†, Russell Power, Romain Yon, David Hall, Percy Liang

Scaling Laws That Extrapolate 300× Past the Fit

Delphi is an open scaling suite ranging from 3e18 to 1e23 FLOPs. A pre-registered forecast from its scaling law predicted the loss of the largest run within 0.2%, extrapolating 300× past the largest run used in the fit.

Will Held

Mixture of Experts Quantile Balancing: Validated at 32B-A5B (1e22 FLOPs) Scale

Quantile Balancing (QB) is a hyperparameter-free load balancer for Mixture of Experts models, introduced by Jianlin Su. We validated it on a 32B-A5B (1e22 FLOPs) Marin run over 326B tokens: zero hyperparameters, zero loss spikes, and no need for leading dense layers, auxiliary losses, or capacity overload factors.

Larry Dial

Marin 32B Retrospective

Scaling the Marin recipe to 32B: loss spikes, recovery, QK-Norm, midtraining, and lessons learned.

Will Held, David Hall

Marin 8B Retrospective

The first Marin 8B run: its changing data mix, training phases, mistakes, and lessons learned.

David Hall

Introducing Marin: An Open Lab for Building Foundation Models

David Hall, Ahmed Ahmed, Christopher Chou, Abhinav Garg, Rohith Kuditipudi, Will Held, Nikil Ravi, Herumb Shandilya, Jason Wang, Jason Bolton, Siddharth Karamcheti, Suhas Kotha, Tony Lee, Nelson Liu, Joel Niklaus, Ashwin Ramaswami, Kamyar Salahi, Kaiyue Wen, Chi Heem Wong, Sherry Yang, Ivan Zhou, Percy Liang